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Posted 10:18am on Wed 27 March 2013
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Battlefield 4 skipping Wii U
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Posted 10:18am on Wed 27 March 2013
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A shame, but this tends to happen at the start of a console's cycle. Look at how many games the PS3 missed out on, some of which were only later ported to the console with extra bits (Bioshock, for instance).

There is also the case that Nintendo are all about bringing the experience to gamers their own way, though, so I'm not surprised to see some of the common games fall by the wayside while they focus on the more unique stuff. It's that question of whether they really need the same game that the other consoles have or whether exclusives serve them better.

I guess the other difference is that MS and Sony have previously provided big money sums for helping development teams to learn to code on their consoles, where-as Nintendo obviously haven't.
Posted 10:54am on Wed 27 March 2013
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A shame, but this tends to happen at the start of a console's cycle. Look at how many games the PS3 missed out on, some of which were only later ported to the console with extra bits (Bioshock, for instance).

There is also the case that Nintendo are all about bringing the experience to gamers their own way, though, so I'm not surprised to see some of the common games fall by the wayside while they focus on the more unique stuff. It's that question of whether they really need the same game that the other consoles have or whether exclusives serve them better.

I guess the other difference is that MS and Sony have previously provided big money sums for helping development teams to learn to code on their consoles, where-as Nintendo obviously haven't.

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The reasons games passed the PS3 was two fold.

The 1st problem with the PS3 was the architecture was so different to anything else that it wasn't feasible to produce the games until a suitable porting solution came along.

The 2nd the user base was far lower than the already established 360 so it was easy to pass it by. This is in common with the Wii U.

However the Wii U is first to the table as a next gen console however it only has slightly more/same power as current gen using the same architecture. It's lack of uptake is obviously a concern to the developers and therefore are not sinking money to flog a dead horse.

The only way to boost confidence in the console is to get more sold and the only way for this to happen is for Nintendo to get a Mario Game and Zelda game to the table pronto. I fear that these developments are way off and that is a serious issue.

The original Wii changed the way that the average non gaming user thought about gaming, the tablet controller concept has fallen flat with that audience and has done little to enthuse the serious gamer with a weak line up therefore its died on it's arse at launch. Games and consoles alike are being heavily discounted at retail and it seems like doom and gloom is back just like Gamecube days.

I fear the worst for the console if it keeps on being passed by. Sad

I would also point Sony and Microsoft to look at the lack of interest in the tablet controller before putting all their eggs in that basket too.
Posted 11:03am on Wed 27 March 2013
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@Karlius, None of that BS you posted was even stated here. They are skipping Wii U because they do not have enough people, not because of some made up fanboy issue of the console not being powerful enough. As already stated many games missed the PS3 at the start of this gen. You fanboys just need to accept that rather than continue to make yourself look clueless when it comes to gaming.
You also seem to be clueless to sales as Wii U is selling faster than PS3 or 360 did when they launched.

Like many in the industry you let your hate override your common sense and only make yourself look clueless. Oh and games like NFS using PC assests pretty much proves its more powerful than current gen consoles. Just another first gen gamer acting like an expert
Posted 11:21am on Wed 27 March 2013
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@Karlius, None of that BS you posted was even stated here. They are skipping Wii U because they do not have enough people, not because of some made up fanboy issue of the console not being powerful enough. As already stated many games missed the PS3 at the start of this gen. You fanboys just need to accept that rather than continue to make yourself look clueless when it comes to gaming.
You also seem to be clueless to sales as Wii U is selling faster than PS3 or 360 did when they launched.

Like many in the industry you let your hate override your common sense and only make yourself look clueless. Oh and games like NFS using PC assests pretty much proves its more powerful than current gen consoles. Just another first gen gamer acting like an expert

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I feel quite proud that my comments wound you up so much that you decided to join up to state that. As for your sales figures I disagree PS3, 360 sales were scampered by supply issues early doors they sold out like hot cakes and that went on for some time. Happy to look back at this thread and these comments post Christmas 2013 and eat humble pie if I'm wrong.
Posted 11:35am on Wed 27 March 2013
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The reasons games passed the PS3 was two fold.

The 1st problem with the PS3 was the architecture was so different to anything else that it wasn't feasible to produce the games until a suitable porting solution came along.

The 2nd the user base was far lower than the already established 360 so it was easy to pass it by. This is in common with the Wii U.

However the Wii U is first to the table as a next gen console however it only has slightly more/same power as current gen using the same architecture. It's lack of uptake is obviously a concern to the developers and therefore are not sinking money to flog a dead horse.

The only way to boost confidence in the console is to get more sold and the only way for this to happen is for Nintendo to get a Mario Game and Zelda game to the table pronto. I fear that these developments are way off and that is a serious issue.

The original Wii changed the way that the average non gaming user thought about gaming, the tablet controller concept has fallen flat with that audience and has done little to enthuse the serious gamer with a weak line up therefore its died on it's arse at launch. Games and consoles alike are being heavily discounted at retail and it seems like doom and gloom is back just like Gamecube days.

I fear the worst for the console if it keeps on being passed by. Sad

I would also point Sony and Microsoft to look at the lack of interest in the tablet controller before putting all their eggs in that basket too.

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It's more a PR issue than the hardware itself. Nintendo just haven't sold the console well enough, especially to the Wii's existing audience. This was true right from the reveal of the console.

However, if it does as well as the Gamecube's 7 year life then I'll be happy, that had most of the top rated games of all time and sold better than the Xbox, it's just most people remember it differently thank to some of the media of the time.

Worst case scenario? Nintendo do always have the option of creating new hardware earlier, they've not established a length of time for Wii U's life. However, I don't think it will come to this. Look at the 3DS, it was in exactly the same position at this stage in its life; good first party and a few great third party games, but not enough to sustain it. The handheld is now selling fantastically thanks to a better PR campaign and better software titles, but that took ages.

Companies do go through these points in their life when they're successful so they end up sitting on their laurels. It happened to Sega, Sony, Atari and many others and I'm sure Microsoft are not immune to this, either, should they make the wrong choices.

So, yes, Nintendo need to help sales by getting software out there (and it doesn't have to be their own) and pushing the console through better marketing, but it would be foolish to write the Wii U off at this stage.
Posted 11:37am on Wed 27 March 2013
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I feel quite proud that my comments wound you up so much that you decided to join up to state that. As for your sales figures I disagree PS3, 360 sales were scampered by supply issues early doors they sold out like hot cakes and that went on for some time. Happy to look back at this thread and these comments post Christmas 2013 and eat humble pie if I'm wrong.

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Actually, the Wii U did have a better launch, but it's all relative to the market at the time. You can't really compare now to 6 years ago in terms of sales figures.
Posted 11:46am on Wed 27 March 2013
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It's more a PR issue than the hardware itself. Nintendo just haven't sold the console well enough, especially to the Wii's existing audience. This was true right from the reveal of the console.

However, if it does as well as the Gamecube's 7 year life then I'll be happy, that had most of the top rated games of all time and sold better than the Xbox, it's just most people remember it differently thank to some of the media of the time.

Worst case scenario? Nintendo do always have the option of creating new hardware earlier, they've not established a length of time for Wii U's life. However, I don't think it will come to this. Look at the 3DS, it was in exactly the same position at this stage in its life; good first party and a few great third party games, but not enough to sustain it. The handheld is now selling fantastically thanks to a better PR campaign and better software titles, but that took ages.

Companies do go through these points in their life when they're successful so they end up sitting on their laurels. It happened to Sega, Sony, Atari and many others and I'm sure Microsoft are not immune to this, either, should they make the wrong choices.

So, yes, Nintendo need to help sales by getting software out there (and it doesn't have to be their own) and pushing the console through better marketing, but it would be foolish to write the Wii U off at this stage.

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I agree PR has been non existent probably down to thinking the thing will sell itself like Wii did everything you say 100% true except I feel the release of a big Zelda or Mario game will get the hype up. You have to produce at least one amazing must have game for launch period and Wii U doesn't have it. Xbox had PGR, Quake 4, Condemned and COD 2 and more & PS3 had Killzone, Resistance: Fall of Man and MGS4 and more.
Posted 11:46am on Wed 27 March 2013
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I feel quite proud that my comments wound you up so much that you decided to join up to state that. As for your sales figures I disagree PS3, 360 sales were scampered by supply issues early doors they sold out like hot cakes and that went on for some time. Happy to look back at this thread and these comments post Christmas 2013 and eat humble pie if I'm wrong.

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Yeah I can remember the 360 selling out and I only just managed to get a PS3 60GB when that came out in Cardiff.

The Wii-U is a different story and if it's not hardware as well, how come they have flat out out said it aint coming out for it while being coy about it coming out next gen, the new consoles are are gonna have no user base at first either...

Dead console I think and I can see this being the death of the Wii-U like when WB went exclusive to Blu-Ray.
Posted 11:50am on Wed 27 March 2013
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I agree PR has been non existent probably down to thinking the thing will sell itself like Wii did everything you say 100% true except I feel the release of a big Zelda or Mario game will get the hype up. You have to produce at least one amazing must have game for launch period and Wii U doesn't have it. Xbox had PGR, Quake 4, Condemned and COD 2 and more & PS3 had Killzone, Resistance: Fall of Man and MGS4 and more.

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Oh, a Nintendo game would most certainly get more hype, that's why they launched the (excellent) NSMBU with the console.

But, yes, they need more and they've at least announced a new Mario, Yoshi and Zelda game, alongside a whole raft of other titles. But the release dates aren't until nearer the end of the year.
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