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Posted 10:13am on Fri 14 September 2012
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Guild Wars 2 is beautiful game that runs very well on most mid-spec machines, but the developer needs to rethink its approach to rewarding the game's most devout players.

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Posted 10:13am on Fri 14 September 2012
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Grats on being the 30th Guild Wars 2 review. It's also the first review that doesn't include the word 'event', which is surprising.
Posted 10:25am on Fri 14 September 2012
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Grats on being the 30th Guild Wars 2 review. It's also the first review that doesn't include the word 'event', which is surprising.

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Rather be the 30th and play the game to 80 than rush out a review at level 5 ;-)
Posted 2:46pm on Fri 14 September 2012
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Best review I've read in a long time. Nice one.
Posted 5:32pm on Fri 14 September 2012
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I liked the review Smile I agree with most of whats said and I do think it's points are justified. From a certain point of view. And thats where it falls down slightly for me. I shall elaborate withhelp from a bit of context:

The original Guild Wars was a PvP game. First and foremost it was an MMO where the PvE introduced you to the game, the mechanics and how to play your character though a nice story without the pressure of letting your peers down in competitive PvP. Then you joined a guild and competed to make your guild THE BEST in both PvE and PvP. It was a war of guilds.

Within the first year the GW world championships had a $100,000 prize pot for the Guild vs Guild PvP arenas. The guild I was in at the time, Xen of Onslaught [XoO], qualified for the final Ladder but were knocked out in our first match. To my knowledge no other MMO to date has ever had a competitive championship event, much less worldwide!!

The GW expansions have been some of the best I've ever seen. They added a persistant PvP matchup and more PvE content in troves. It wasn't about getting increasingly elaborate gear in order to obtain the next set of elaborate gear; That was already going on in parellel over in WoW; GW1 came out about 6-7 months after WoW and even then was drastically different to previous MMOs.

In as many ways as WoW dumbed down and simplified the genre so that joe blogs and mary malone could play it, Guild Wars plowed on and added additional layers of complexity and depth and imo was better for it. But as we know the joe blogs and mary malones are who buy the most software and it's them that we seek to appease, even in reviews that they never read.

So what we have now are people who have been conditioned in such a way that all they want are innumerable ways to obtain new and more impressive looking gear. Fair enough. Essentially they want to be recognised more by what they look like than for their actions. Sure there are actions associated with obtaining the gear, but largely we have an abundance of 'cool kids' I'm not gonna say that this is a sad reflection on society in general....but there i've already said it Wink

Guild Wars 2 then, it's different. Again. It's not designed for cool kids though they are certainly welcomed in many ways. There are many many improvements on every MMO I've played since GW and so far I have complaints related to number of skills and, as Lauren touched on, variety of gear.

There's a lack of available skills to mess around with and combine. But there's a lot more emphasis on working with others this time around, and this is echoed all through the entire game, from the GW2 equivalent of public quests to the combos and finishers combat system down to the 2-week long world persistent campaign that if it's anything at all like DaoC's frontiers is gonna be awesome!

There is a LOT of combat depth, even at my low level, but it's not always very obvious. it's taken me a long time to realise I could switch weapons mid combat to use other weapon-specific skills. On my Mesmer this is essential as it allows me to have more phantasms out on the field. The game doesn't really give you much training on combat and I think it's one of it's many many strengths that so many other games lack.

Gear. It does seem a little samey. Although I've seen a lot of different gear on a variety of different characters, I've yet to see a high level character that looks anything like a low level character. And the dungeon gear is mighty impressive looking! From what i can see there are at least 6 or 7 'epic' dungeons with associated gear to obtain, not counting the gear you can craft with rare components. Perhaps one could say the standard gear progression could be more...obvious.

Not once in this review has there been a mention of a guild. I havent joined a guild yet, but I was kinda hoping there might be some insight into some of the benefits along with guild progression mechanics. Guilds are important in MMOs more so in a title about wars between them than any other. The GvG PvP battles are not in the game yet, but given the history this mode of PvP has (see above) it's likely to be a big affair in GW2. not least of which I expect to be a Guild's ability to take responsibility for a fort or tower in WvWvW and apply upgrades and such through guild members actions.

Reviewing an MMO is always tricky I think, regardless of how long you spend playing them. They're so massive in scope that you'd have to play for months and months before you were in a position to convey all the layers good and bad. Though to be fair this is exactly what mmorpg.com do...

Overall i think the review was good, glaring omissions and pre-conceived expectations aside. A game thats sold 2 million copies in 2 weeks is most definitely a hallmark for success and there is SO much more to look forward to yet. I cant wait to get stuck into PvP!!!
Posted 5:50pm on Fri 14 September 2012
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Thought I'd just add someone has now made a list of 80 things to do at level 80 in Guild Wars 2.

I'd like to add the 81st, I call it 'Endgame: Fun Redefined'

Posted 5:57pm on Fri 14 September 2012
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Good review, you should have review Max Payne 3, too.

Due to being so easy to level, do you feel powerful at the higher levels, or just as powerful as you did at rank 30?
Posted 9:01pm on Fri 14 September 2012
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Good review, you should have review Max Payne 3, too.

Due to being so easy to level, do you feel powerful at the higher levels, or just as powerful as you did at rank 30?

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Thats one criticism I can relate to. Because of the automatic level scaling, if you're lvl 80 and you go back down to the starter zones, you dont one shot things like you expect. You'll still be massively powerful though because your traits alone would almost double some of your stats, plus your weapon bonuses and all the skills you have available should make it a breeze.
Posted 9:51pm on Fri 14 September 2012
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o.0

We're deleting posts that disagree with the reviews, now?
Posted 11:19pm on Fri 14 September 2012
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o.0

We're deleting posts that disagree with the reviews, now?

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That was me - if you're referring to MastorOfPuppetz. S/he crops up occasionally with the intention of telling everyone else they're wrong and arguing everything that people say nor-matter what. And, for some reason writes a new post for each new point s/he's making, even if they're next to each other.

I didn't think there was any point leaving a comment that began with, 'What a joke review for a joke site.' as it's just a bit spammy and it saves people trying to argue with him / her / it.

My apologies if you think that was the wrong call.
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