The Agency dev: 'Gamers don't like cross-platform play'

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Posted 7:44pm on Fri 19 September 2008
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The Agency dev: 'Gamers don't like cross-platform play'
Players only say the want it because it 'sounds cool'.

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Posted 7:44pm on Fri 19 September 2008
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Players only say the want it because it 'sounds cool'.

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I wouldn't say that there's a 'perception that cross-platform play is inherently unfair'. I'd say that in practice though the PC version of cross-platform games is usually the easier version to exploit glitches on, which then leads to unbalanced play as has happened with both Shadowrun and FFXI in the past.

FFXI is probably the best example around of where cross-platform play actually works brilliantly, you've no idea whether the people you're playing with are on PS2, PS3, 360 or PC unless you either ask them or watch them speedhacking and glitching through walls, in which case they're probably on PC.

The Agency is a shooter though, so there'll always be the Mouse vs Control Pad argument, yet Shadowrun is practically totally PvP and there don't seem to be any complaints in that department, and The Agency has minimal PvP, it's mostly PvE from my understanding.

Hopefully they'll discover in beta that it works just great and keep it in, my only concern being that they fully support the game after it gets released so they can nail any exploits that crop up (e.g. duping, infinite money glitches, invincibility hacks etc.) on one system fast before it causes unbalance across the whole game.
Posted 1:02pm on Tue 23 September 2008
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    Did you notice how the senior game designer first says "we're finding that players actually don't like [cross-platform play]" and then says "we'll try it a little bit and see how we like [cross-platform play]"? I think there's a bias against cross-platform play on the side of the designer and not on the side of the community. While it's certainly easier to take advantage of a game in a Windows environment than on a console, that doesn't preclude hacking on the console either. Both cases have to be addressed. In this particular case, it seems that the game designer just doesn't want to deal with it. For instance, what he really might be saying is that, if there's not rampant cheating in the beta, we'll leave cross-platform play in. Otherwise, we'll let all of you cheat on your own server. When, in actuality, they should just design the server code with boundaries on the player and ban them after a certain point. Examples of simple boundaries are: you can only move so far over 'X' amount of time, you can't suddenly go from 'X' amount of currency to 'Y' amount of currency, there are only {X-Z} characters allowed to be displayed on another user's screen, etc.
    Posted 7:18pm on Wed 14 January 2009
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      It's sony... Nothing more need be said about their inheritent failures to meet the expectations of the gaming community. It doesn't surprise me one bit to hear this. If you make a game, a truly GREAT game, there should be (as FantasyMeister wrote) no real way to tell the difference between the users logged in on any given system.
      Posted 9:01pm on Wed 14 January 2009
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      I have long wondered why cross-platform play is not universal wherever possible. I am no expert, but surely it is just a matter of parsing inputs to the other OS? For example, currently when I press the right trigger on my 360 controller in Rainbow Six Vegas it tells my character to fire his currently equipped weapon. What precisely changes on the PS3? I am even pressing the button in the same location on the controller. And, again, why are both of these so different from pressing my mouse button? Surely the server can read what button I press, and then parse this information to all the clients. I don't see why all clients need to be the exact same console, as it is literally just a string of 1's and 0's that is changing hands.

      I know that emulation is frowned upon, but there is a program that can be built into many emulators called Kaillera. What it does is to take the inputs from me as player 1, and parses them onto the remote machine I am connected to as player 2, thus allowing me to play SNES Super Mario Kart against a friend in America. As far as I am aware it is independently programmed, too. If this can be achieved, then surely something similar can be built into a multi-platform game at development level?

      As for the old chestnut of PC advantage, well .... Yes, there generally will be an advantage to one format. But, this advantage will not always be to the PC. There are some players out there who are genuinely skilled with a controller. For all the aiming advantage a mouse has, it is still more intuitive to move with a stick. It is for this very reason that most console FPS games have 'legacy' in the controller options, as they are not attempting to emulate mouse and keyboard controls but instead focussing on the strengths of a twin-stick approach.
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