Posted 10:17am on Wed 16 January 2013
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Okay, perhaps I'm too old and have just missed the mark, but I was never into the whole Pokemon craze.
Played Red I think back in the day, thought it was alright, but hadn't bothered with the series until Soul Silver, which I thought was pretty good... But when I tried Platinum after that I was bored to tears, and had the same experience with Black, which I thought was repetitive, boring, and stupid as hell (seriously, ice-cream pokemon? and washing machine pokemon?!).
I know there are some Pokemon fans here, so question - what do you like about the Pokemon games, which ones do you like best (and why)?
I'm actually tempted to either re-pickup Soul Silver, or maybe Black 2... but blah I'm probably gonna get bored, maybe?
Posted 4:57pm on Wed 16 January 2013
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Generation 2/ The generation 2 remakes, i.e. Heart gold/ soul silver, are probably the best games in the series, with the most content. The game not only includes the Johto region, but also have the original Kanto region from the first game included as well, gyms and all. It's also the most challenging of the series, most pokemon games have their most powerful AI trainers only have around level 60 pokemon (not including the optional rematches). The final boss from gen 2 has a team of level 80+ pokemon.
...So going from that to Platinum (generation 4) which are probably the worst games in the series (bad as in generic boring and lacking any noticeable innovation), was sadly an unfortunate move on your part.
I quite liked what Game freak were trying to do with gen 5 (black and white) as a concept. They wanted to make a game that felt fresh so what they did was create a new 150 pokemon (the most added amount of species of any generation since the original) and made it so you could only use the new pokemon up until after you've beaten the final boss. You couldn't just rely on old favourites which was a good move. The problem was that after just under 500 previous designs, you could tell from some of the newer ones (the trash bag pokemon, the ice cream pokemon) they were running out of ideas. It's unfortunates since there were some other brilliant designs added in gen 5 (the electric spider being one of my favourites), that people seem to forget. It was probably my second favourite gen. They also tried to put an emphasis on the story, which while still could of been better was a definite step in the right direction.
Gen 3, I didn't play. It was great for the time apparently (probably due to the leap from Gameboy Colour to gameboy advance), but it is over shadowed now. Original gen 1, is absolutely covered in nostalgia by most people. Yet again amazing for the time, but even by original gen 2 standards (let alone today's standards) generation one was an incredibly broken game. The sprites were also quite badly drawn for the pokemon. This was all fixed for the gen one remake, so it can be experienced in a playable manor.
(Rant begins:)A minority of (foolish, in my opinion) self proclaimed "purists" say that the first 151 designs were the best, and all else are rubbish, but they tend to ignore the flaws of the originals. That's not to say gen 1 doesn't have some of the best designs (charazard, bulbasaur, squirtle etc) but like all other gens there many which are just unimaginative and pretty bad. I mean voltorb is a pokeball (originally just a item trap), and it's evolution, electrode, is the same thing but upside down! In fact there are some many pokemon from gen one which have evolutions that are either slightly big, or just 3 pre-evolutions stuck together (I'm looking at you dugtrio, magneton and dodrio!), it's mind boggling! (rant end)
Lastly, multiplayer is a major part of pokemon. Generally if you're first experiences of pokemon is just the single player only, or as a grown man, it's pretty much a decent/ mediore RPG with a fairly good team recruitment idea, and an elemental damage tree battle system. If you experienced as kid (ages 7-16) and after the beating the single-player you had a bunch of mates you could battle against, then you have just played one of the most deep, engaging and unique RPG franchises around. And because of the fact you experienced multiplayer the first time round you appreciate what subsequent add in terms of mechanics.
Pokemon with out it's multiplayer scene and community, is like having COD without multiplayer. Passable at best. A lot of the deeper mechanics in pokemon (e.g. EV level training, items, happiness level, etc) can be totally ignored in the single-player as the AI for the majority of the game, doesn't adhere to any sort of meta game tactics at all. Where as in multiplayer these tactics are vital, to making the game great for both pros and beginner players.
Posted 5:05pm on Wed 16 January 2013
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I don't know. I guess I just want to be the very best, like no one has ever been before.
I feel that catching Pokémon is my real test and to train them is my cause. I mean, I'm definitely willing to travel across the land. Searching; far and wide and I just want to find the power that's inside.
But no seriously. I'm not sure what it is. I played them repeatedly as a child and I just really enjoy doing badges 3 - 8 (the opening is always dull). It's hard to explain what's so good about it. If you're going to try and get into it pick up HG / SS or, wait for X and Y.
I'm most likely going to pick up a 3DS just to play X / Y.
Posted 6:34pm on Wed 16 January 2013
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I think the first 151 are the best although the ones up until Ruby and Sapphire were OK, after that they turned to garbage though.
Posted 7:15pm on Wed 16 January 2013
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I'm just saying there were many brilliant designs post the first game. And that each generation is also full of duds, including the first.
Posted 7:16pm on Wed 16 January 2013
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Which I agree with, I was just saying anything in the DS era has been pure sh*t
Posted 7:53pm on Wed 16 January 2013
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Gen 4 stuff was rubbish agreed. I think there is some good stuff in Gen 5, but then there is some dreadful stuff in gen 5 as well. I've heard they won't be adding as many new pokemon this for X and Y as they have previously. Hopefully that means they're more consistent.
Posted 8:16pm on Wed 16 January 2013
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It probably helped if you liked the cartoons? My sister was well into them, but they didn't do much for me.